that BASTARD bush!!

[two drink minimum]

Originally posted by recoveringpunker:
You are wrong. Neither of them are heros to me, or even close.

Next point of mine you have created in me that you would like me to disprove?

<font size="2" face="verdana, arial">Okay, so heroes isn't the right word? How about role models, upstanding citizens, people you could hang with, or how about just "people you look up to" THe fact is you like them, you don't disapprove of them. Mike does and punk rock feelings in general do.

[recoveringpunker]

Punk Rock feelings????

HAHAHHA!


I don't agree with Bush you retard! FUCK! You are a moron!!!

I am debating YOU. Not Bush being a good guy or not. I am DEBATING YOU. You have poor reasoning skills, and weak argumentive abilities. I am trying to get you to become less of a loser, and actualy learn how to discuss these issues with being a fool and creating faslehoods in others in order to look smarter or more informed.

Your political stance is known, and I disagree with you on parts. But you have no clue how to handle a world of different opinions. I am just proving your methods of reason wrong.

Fuck Mike Ness's views on Bush. I don't look to Bush or Ness for my political opinions. They both live better then I ever have, and their wallets come into play when making decisions. Their social exceptance is a factor in their beleifs, and mine are different from a rich oil baby and now KROQ musician. They have no idea how I live, and different things effect us. They are both former drug addicts, both claim some form of God in their lives now, that is about all we have in common.

If I was gonna shoot heroin and cocaine again, I would call up Bush and Ness. But the buck stops there.

[two drink minimum]

Originally posted by recoveringpunker:
Punk Rock feelings????

HAHAHHA!


I don't agree with Bush you retard! FUCK! You are a moron!!!

I am debating YOU. Not Bush being a good guy or not. I am DEBATING YOU. You have poor reasoning skills, and weak argumentive abilities. I am trying to get you to become less of a loser, and actualy learn how to discuss these issues with being a fool and creating faslehoods in others in order to look smarter or more informed.

Your political stance is known, and I disagree with you on parts. But you have no clue how to handle a world of different opinions. I am just proving your methods of reason wrong.

Fuck Mike Ness's views on Bush. I don't look to Bush or Ness for my political opinions. They both live better then I ever have, and their wallets come into play when making decisions. Their social exceptance is a factor in their beleifs, and mine are different from a rich oil baby and now KROQ musician. They have no idea how I live, and different things effect us. They are both former drug addicts, both claim some form of God in their lives now, that is about all we have in common.

If I was gonna shoot heroin and cocaine again, I would call up Bush and Ness. But the buck stops there.

<font size="2" face="verdana, arial">Well we have made some progress, you now don't agree with Bush. Before you said flat out that you would vote for him with exclamation points. I am going to sleep, but it was great arguing with ya. Nice to know someone out there tries to think once in a while. Cheers mate

[M.B.]

Ok, forget what I say but never cry if you find out that this is true.
Bush must hating america after all he has done. We got 768 killed Gi's in iraq now, 2546 heavily wounded, more than 10 000 killed iraqi and some who were treaten really bad. Don't talk in these days about third reich or world war 2. If you claim what Hitler's Henchmen did I can also counter that the allies knew it all the time what happened in concentration camps. They are so clever to release the aerial photographs with the smoke of burning corpses to everyone on the net 60 years later now.
And what is really happen in Guantanamo? Do you know it? All I know is that the prisoners were treaten not really well, that the U.S. gouvernment doesn't use the human rights there. The same as they did in iraq's prisons maybe. A terrorist is also a human.
And whatever is called cold war is another crazy fact in history. I can remember that my school books didn't described the real facts of the reason for cold war. But other books did, we germans and the whole axis killed more than 20 million russians (civilians!), and you americans? You lost a little more than the people you killed with the both A-Bombs in 1945 in the whole war. That's also the reason why Vietnam was a desaster. I mentioned these things to say just one thing, I was shocked as the iraq war began last year. These pictures of huge explosions in bagdad, after all what happened in the last century what for? A nation which feel strong doesn't need such things, a nation which feel threatened doesn't need it... but just for Bush and the motherfuckin oil industry?
Now war is over and what happened? The oil price is rising "because of difficulties in iraq". Did they know it all the time that they will get iraqi oil in 2004?

[GretschyGreaser]

Why don't you mention that France and Germany are pissed that Saddam is gone and now your own little sweet oil deals are gone. Boo Hoo Hoo..

If you want to put a stop to this war stop driving a fucking SUV and buy a god damn hybrid. Less demand for oil will put the oil prices down . Of course we can't get the so called anti war people like George Clooney to let to of his Escalade , he doesnt want to let go of his phallic symbol on wheels for a Hybrid honda civic.

[M.B.]

Damn, we get our oil from the northern sea and the most from the good old soviet-union (=russia), they also fight their wars for oil Chechnya is the best example. But they don't knock on our door and say "hey fight with us against the muslim because they are terrorists". Most of iraqi oil is on the direct way to the states. The middle east was the whole last century the target of brits and americans (Hitler for example wanted caucasia and the iraq!!, the brits fought against german elite troops in bagdad in the 40s and they won, caucasia was lost after the Stalingrad battle), what for did your army occupied Diego Garcia and threw the living people there out? Strategic Bombing is so important that I had to listen to the U.S.bombers from the 60s last year every night! Now I hear often a transport flight again, you know that all american wounded or dead soldiers make a stop in germany?
And my car you will laugh is a middle class VW which needs for 100 miles 2,6 gallons of gas (~10 liter). Is that much for a car from 1994? No it isn't! But you have to pay here right now for 0,26 gallons 1,36$! Bush's hands are drenched in blood so murder your gouvernment!

<font color="#FFFF00" size="1">[ May 08, 2004 09:24 PM: Message edited by: Sickboy @}--'--,----- ]</font>

[recoveringpunker]

Talk about lost in translation. I have not understood a single point in your last couple of post. Sorry. I see you trying, I guess the typing in english is harder when you might be worked up?????? Not sure, but that is how it comes across.

[M.B.]

Ok, let us talk french, latin or german.
Mit was f?r Dusselk?ppen muss man sich hier eigentlich unterhalten? Kr?nkeln tut ihr alle!!

<font color="#FFFF00" size="1">[ May 08, 2004 09:27 PM: Message edited by: Sickboy @}--'--,----- ]</font>

[recoveringpunker]

To answer your question, English. Everyone here speaks it.

Not sure what the second part of your german said... something to everyone??????

[recoveringpunker]

I wasn't trying to make fun of you in anyway. I was saying I couldn't understand your last few post. I offered up the thought that maybe you are worked up..i.e. upset, or overly passionate when typing. This maybe being the cause of poor translation.

I also drive a car that gets good gas milage now. I do not agree with fighting a war....for oil or not, it will be an outcome for the US most likely... and then driving an SUV or Hummer. Arnold owns like 8 Hummers, that cocksucker! Those things get like 10 miles to the gallon!!!